HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - March 21, 2017 SMLODI CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CARNEGIE FORUM, 305 WEST PINE STREET
TUESDAY, MARCH 21, 2017
A. Call to Order / Roll Call
The Special City Council meeting of March 21, 2017, was called to order by Mayor Kuehne
at 7:02 a.m.
Present: Council Member Chandler, Council Member Johnson, Council Member Mounce,
Mayor Pro Tempore Nakanishi, and Mayor Kuehne
Absent: None
Also Present: City Manager Schwabauer, City Attorney Magdich, and Deputy City Clerk Farris
B. Regular Calendar
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Consider Authorizing City Manager to Pursue Purchase of a Used Portland Loo from
City of San Diego through a Public Auction and Establish a Maximum Expenditure Amount
for the Purchase (CD)
Public Works Associate Civil Engineer Jimi Billigmeier provided a PowerPoint presentation
regarding the possible purchase of a used Portland Loo public restroom from the City of
San Diego. Specific topics of discussion included concept, why it was developed, where it is
used, design, lessons learned, unit under consideration, location, maintenance, restrooms
available Downtown, survey feedback, possible locations, purchase of this particular Loo, funding
sources, and whether the Loo is a good fit for Lodi.
In response to Council Member Mounce, Ms. Billigmeier responded that the
Portland Loo remaining in service in San Diego is located on the corner of Market Street and
Park Boulevard.
In response to Council Member Chandler, Ms. Billigmeier reiterated that Americans with
Disabilities Act compliance was not covered in the survey she conducted, but a small percentage
of the businesses expressed some concern about compliance when deciding whether or not to
make restrooms available.
Council Member Mounce inquired about the use of the restroom at the Transit Station and
whether it is mixed use or mostly transients. Ms. Billigmeier responded that data on usage is
unavailable but the Transit Station restrooms are very clean and are a comfortable setting, so
they would be inviting for tourists; however, they are far away from some Downtown attractions
and people tend not to travel far to find a restroom.
Council Member Mounce inquired if restrooms are available at the Police Department 24 hours
per day, stating that she felt they should be. Ms. Billigmeier stated that the Police Department
lobby is not open 24 hours per day, and further specified that the hours of availability for the
Transit Station restrooms are Monday through Friday, 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.; Saturday, 8:00 a.m.
to 9:00 p.m.; and Sunday, 9:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Council Member Mounce commented that she
felt it would be less expensive to keep the Police Department lobby restrooms open than to install
the Loo.
In response to the suggested Portland Loo location of the walkway between Church Street and
School Street, Council Member Mounce stated that she felt the City would receive many
complaints from the businesses nearby. She also commented that the possible location at the
post office seems close to the Transit Station restroom. Ms. Billigmeier agreed, noting the yellow
circles represent a radius of approximately one block; however, she reminded Council that the
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Transit Station restroom has limited hours while the Loo could be an after-hours solution.
In response to Mayor Kuehne, Ms. Billigmeier stated the Loo does have a storage space in the
back for a hose, hose bib, and supplies.
In response to Mayor Kuehne, Ms. Billigmeier replied she believed a new Portland Loo carried a
one-year warranty, but she would need to verify that information.
In response to Mayor Pro Tempore Nakanishi, Ms. Billigmeier stated that in case of emergency,
keys would be held by the Police Department and by the Parks, Recreation, and Cultural
Services Department, which would be responsible for maintenance.
Mayor Kuehne asked for comments from the public.
Norm Mowery commented he felt that the signs in Downtown Lodi stating that restrooms are
available for customers only are not welcoming and that now that Lodi is a tourist destination, the
City should have a better marketing and customer service image. He further stated he is well
aware of the problems with the homeless and feels there has to be a better solution; it is
important for Lodi to look into the lack of public restrooms, and he appreciates Council taking the
time to discuss it.
Shane Langone, Fire Captain and Secretary of the Lodi Professional Firefighters, spoke on behalf
of the firefighters, especially those located at Station No. 1. He stated he felt locating the Loo
adjacent to the fire house will attract more homeless to the area and employees are already
experiencing problems with transients damaging and breaking into their cars and stealing
equipment from the station, as well as finding drug paraphernalia. He further stated that, as a
parent, he would not want to walk his children by that type of element on the way to Downtown;
he is not opposed to the idea of the Loo but he is opposed to the possible placement adjacent to
Fire Station No. 1.
In response to Electric Utility Director Elizabeth Kirkley, Ms. Billigmeier responded that the unit
available from San Diego is equipped with solar panels and batteries, so it would not need to be
attached to an electrical power supply.
Council Member Johnson questioned if the homeless problem had perhaps subsided a bit, based
on the decreased volume of phone calls and emails he has been receiving. He stated that he is a
proponent of the Loo, but he would like to see more definitive numbers on the local businesses in
favor or opposed to the proposal. He commended June Aaker and Nancy Beckman of Visit Lodi!
in bringing people together on this issue, but he stated he needed more input from the local
businesses before making a decision.
Council Member Mounce agreed more information is needed before making a decision. She
stated she intended to speak with her colleague Mark Kersey, San Diego City Council Member
and Board Member of League of California Cities, as she felt he could share insight into this
issue. She further stated that the City needs to further explore alternatives such as 24-hour
availability of the restrooms at the Transit Station and Police Station and study the
associated security costs, as opposed to investing in and maintaining the Loo. Council Member
Mounce expressed that there are too many unknowns at this point to invest this amount of
money; this particular Loo does not have a pleasing appearance in the pictures; she did not want
to bring another city's problem to Lodi; and she would be happier renting a portable restroom to
put in the Elm Street parking lot on a six-month trial basis. Council Member Mounce commended
Ms. Billigmeier on the outstanding presentation provided under a tight time frame and agreed with
Mr. Langone's comments regarding having the Loo located at City Hall as she also has safety
concerns when she is at City Hall at night. She further stated that she agrees there is a problem
but is not sure the Loo is the solution.
Council Member Chandler agreed with the previous Council Members' comments; he stated he
does not believe Council has enough information, he is not comfortable making the decision
under duress, and more input from local businesses is needed. He acknowledged business
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owners in the audience and asked if they had any opinions to share.
John Della Monica, representing the Downtown Business Association (DBA), stated DBA does
not yet have an opinion on the Loo; they need more information and the timing has made
it difficult for the involved businesses to come together to make a decision.
Mayor Kuehne expressed concern over whether this particular Loo is compliant with current
building codes and the lack of a warranty, given the amount of money the City would invest. He
stated he feels everyone agrees a public restroom is needed Downtown, but the location is still in
question. He likes the concept but feels this particular Loo is not the right one for Lodi.
Council Member Nakanishi agreed with previous Council Members' comments.
Council Member Mounce asked the City Manager to research the cost of portable restrooms,
similar to the one in back of Lawrence School which serves the athletic fields, and questioned the
possibility of having a test run of a portable restroom in the Elm Street parking lot or the space
adjacent to the parking garage.
Mr. Schwabauer responded that the Homelessness Committee investigated a concept
Sacramento has in place in which an attendant monitors and cleans the restroom. He conceded
Sacramento's program is probably more robust than what she envisions. Neighborhood Services
Manager Joseph Wood stated the cost for the Sacramento program is about $1,000 per day.
Pat Patrick, President/CEO of Lodi Chamber of Commerce, stated he was previously unaware of
the nice restroom facilities available at the Transit Station, and he suggested having cards
available for local businesses to distribute directing people to the restrooms there, as well as to
the Police Station, should that one become available.
Council Member Mounce referenced Mr. Mowery's comments and suggested having businesses
replace the "No Public Restroom" signs with signs that direct people to the Transit Station. In
response, Mr. Schwabauer stated he will look into adding that information to the City's kiosks.
In response to Mayor Kuehne, Mr. Schwabauer confirmed there is a 24-hour security presence at
the Transit Station.
Council Member Mounce suggested expanding the hours of availability at the Transit Station
restrooms to solve the problem on an interim basis.
June Aaker, local business owner and member of the Homelessness Committee, stated the pilot
program for the City of Sacramento cost $175,000. She further stated that yesterday she had to
bleach the stairwell located at her business on Pine Street, despite having a gate at the top of the
stairs; and at least once a week, her neighbor at 17 West Pine Street finds defecation between
her dumpsters, on the walls, and on the door. She stressed that despite Council receiving fewer
phone calls and emails, transients are still a rampant problem.
Council Member Mounce agreed with Ms. Aaker's assessment of the transient problem and
further asked Mr. Schwabauer to research the cost of making both the Police Department lobby
restrooms and the Transit Station restrooms available to the public 24 hours per day, as that
would go a long way towards solving the problem.
Council Member Nakanishi suggested, since this is a controversial issue, that stakeholders come
together to discuss the issues and then present a solution to Council. Mr. Schwabauer
responded it would be the City's desire to have a public process and Public Works would hold
public meetings to afford people the opportunity to provide input. He reminded Council that the
cart got put before the horse in this instance due to the impending auction of the used Loo in
San Diego.
Council Member Mounce questioned where funding would come from to pay for any of the plans
for public restrooms; with the CaIPERS crisis looming, there is no extra money available.
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John Della Monica stated, on a personal note, that yesterday his wife had to call the Police
Department to deal with a transient relieving himself against the wall in the alley behind her
business who became aggressive. He further stated that this is an example of how the
homelessness issue is not getting better in Lodi and how some transients are becoming more
aggressive.
In response to Council Member Mounce's inquiry regarding a fence for the alley behind the
business, Mr. Della Monica replied plans are moving forward as there is no other solution and the
employees fear for their safety in the evening hours due to groups of transients living in the area.
Mr. Mowery commented that local businesses in Sutter Creek and Murphys have attractive signs
directing people to the public restrooms there, and he suggested Lodi follow the same model. He
further noted that Lake Camanche has a very attractive Port -a -Potty, which he felt would work
well for a pilot program in Lodi.
Council Member Mounce commented she is looking forward to finding out how Lodi can expand
the hours of operation at the Transit Station restrooms and begin directing people there since the
security and infrastructure is already in place.
Transportation Manager Paula Fernandez stated that Transit is currently spending about
$150,000 per year on security for the Transit Station and the parking structure. She commented
that transients frequently steal the toilet paper and seat covers, even during the day. She further
stated that Transit uses State and federal funds to cover the costs of security, maintenance, and
janitorial services at the Transit Station and expressed concern about using those funds outside
of the hours that the Station is serving Transit customers.
Council Member Mounce agreed with Ms. Fernandez's concerns and stated she believes that the
City will encounter those problems no matter where the restroom is located and part of the
challenge will be finding a way to mitigate those issues.
Mayor Kuehne stated that since there were no further comments, the matter would be tabled until
more information becomes available.
C. Adjournment
There being no further business to come before the City Council, the meeting was adjourned at
8:06 a.m.
ATTEST:
Pamela M. Farris
Deputy City Clerk
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