HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - December 16, 2008 SSLODI CITY COUNCIL
SHIRTSLEEVE SESSION
CARNEGIE FORUM, 305 WEST PINE STREET
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2008
A. Roll Call by City Clerk
An Informal Informational Meeting ("Shirtsleeve" Session) of the Lodi City Council was held
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, commencing at 7:02 a.m.
Present: Council Member Hitchcock, Council Member Johnson, Mayor Pro Tempore Katzakian,
Council Member Mounce, and Mayor Hansen
Absent: None
Also Present: City Manager King, City Attorney Schwabauer, and City Clerk Johl
B. Topic(s)
B-1 Receive Presentation on Chanaes to DeBenedetti Park (PR)
City Manager King briefly introduced the subject matter of DeBenedetti Park.
Public Works Director Wally Sandelin and Interim Parks and Recreation Director Jim Rodems
provided a presentation regarding Ed DeBenedetti Park. Specific topics of discussion included
the original design of 49 acres, sports fields, flood basin area, positioning of baseball and soccer
fields, design to cost project feature, revised configuration, irrigation, and piping.
In response to Mayor Hansen, Mr. Sandelin stated staff is recommending putting dirt back into
the basin to fill it up at a net savings of $300,000, and avoided costs of $990,000 with the football
field.
In response to Mayor Hansen, Mr. Rodems confirmed that the proposed area is for Pop Warner
type football and not high school football.
In response to Mayor Hansen, Mr. Rodems confirmed there are bleachers proposed on either
side of the football field.
In response to Mayor Hansen, Mr. Sandelin stated the storm drain side net savings is
approximately $100,000 and the park side avoided cost is almost $1 million if the football field is
not placed as originally proposed.
In response to Council Member Mounce, Mr. Rodems and Mr. Sandelin stated the proposed
timeline is fall of next year.
In response to Council Member Johnson, Mr. Sandelin stated the high ground could be left
vacant, but to keep the basin at a 30 -foot depth the City would incur costs annually to maintain at
that level.
In response to Council Member Johnson, Mr. Sandelin stated historically the design of the park
with the basin and playfield area would have left the field unusable after nearly every storm.
Mr. Sandelin stated that, when the City Council decided to build a deeper field, there was no
consideration of ongoing costs with pumping.
In response to Mayor Hansen, Mr. Rodems stated the general issue with the Parks and
Recreation Commission was what was being given up and the timeline. He stated the original
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design was for $12 million, funding is only available for $8 million, and approximately $4 million
had to be value engineered out. Mr. Rodems stated the overall perspective of the Commission
was positive in that it approved of moving forward on the timeline by giving up some on the
design side.
In response to Mayor Hansen, Mr. Rodems stated they should be able to have something on the
site that people can use more quickly in light of the proposed reduced costs.
In response to Council Member Mounce, Mr. Rodems stated there may be an ability to divide the
project into pieces so that pieces are manageable by various service groups and the open space
could be used for basketball court.
In response to Council Member Mounce, Mr. Rodems stated there are four proposed soccer
fields.
In response to Mayor Hansen, Mr. Rodems stated he did not have the specific costs for
concessions available.
In response to Council Member Hitchcock, Mr. Rodems stated the revised plan shows one high
ground soccer field, possibly an all-weather field, the remainder in secondary basin, and there will
still be dry fields in wet weather with the exception of the 100 -year flood. Mr. Rodems stated the
field could be used for both soccer and football, with concurrent seasons, on a space
management basis.
In response to Council Member Hitchcock, Mr. Rodems stated the bleacher seating is
approximately 800 and is built for Pop Warner type football, which could run concurrently with
soccer, based on space management and alternated use. He stated the parking may be realistic
for Pop Warner type football rather than high school football with respect to neighboring noise
concerns that may arise. Mr. Sandelin stated parking will be revaluated and analyzed as the
project moves forward as the funding was not there for the original design.
In response to Council Member Johnson, Mr. Sandelin and Mr. Rodems confirmed the field will
be lit.
Discussion ensued between Council Member Johnson and City Manager King regarding winter
and spring soccer leagues, availability of fields, Junior Flames practices, complaints by
competitive winter soccer about unlit soccer fields, Kofu Park and Grape Festival grounds as
option with fee, and attempts to improve what the City currently has while phasing in the
remainder.
In response to Council Member Mounce, Mr. Rodems stated the Parks and Recreation
Commission approved the proposed project plans.
In response to Council Member Mounce, Mr. Rodems stated the water way funds were the only
grant source staff has seen in the current year as nothing new has come out. Mr. King stated the
park bonds were issued in 2002 and there will likely be nothing new until those are fully
exhausted. He stated there may be some Proposition 1 C park money related to high density
housing as well.
In response to Mr. King, Mr. Rodems stated the City came within a month or so of losing grant
funds if it did not spend the funds on the park restroom improvements and the City is within a
couple of weeks of spending out the park bond money, which may be a result of waiting on
DeBenedetti.
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In response to Mayor Pro Tempore Katzakian, Mr. Rodems and Mr. Sandelin stated there is
approximately $1.7 million to start the project now.
In response to Council Member Johnson, Mr. Sandelin stated by putting in the dirt there is a
minimum savings of $100,000 and additional details will be available when the matter comes
back to the Council in January. He stated there may be an option to charge pool excavators for
dumping dirt into the basin, which may generate some revenue. Mr. Rodems stated there is also
a long-term savings based on maintenance.
In response to Council Member Hitchcock, Mr. Sandelin stated there are existing homes next to
the park and football field.
In response to Council Member Johnson, Mr. Rodems stated the City may want to look at all-
weather fields in the Grape Bowl for the long run as well as programming.
In response to Myrna Wetzel, Mr. Sandelin and City Attorney Schwabauer stated it is less costly
to sell the preferred City dirt and fill in the basin with the less preferred dirt through pool
excavators and there may be ability to generate some revenue as well.
None.
D. Adwournm,-nt
No action was taken by the City Council. The meeting was adjourned at 7:48 a.m.
ATTEST:
Randi Johl
City Clerk
AGENDA ITEM •
CITY OF LODI
COUNCIL COMMUNICATION
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AGENDA TITLE: Receive Presentation on Changes to DeBenedetti Park
MEETING DATE: December 16, 2008 — Shirtsleeve Meeting
PREPARED B Y James M. Rodems- Interim Parks and Recreation Director
RECOMMENDED ACTION: Receive presentation regarding new plans for DeBenedetti Park as
approved by the Recreation Commission.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION: Due to funding constraints and storm drainage needs, the City
proposes changes to the previously approved layout cf DeBenedetti
Park. These changes would facilitate a phasing of the project that
could start as soon as Fall 2009. The proposed changes would cause a decrease in field space cf
approximately 3.3 acres but would accelerate the project timeline. The first phase of the project would
be accomplished using Public Works and park impact fee funding.
James M. Rodems
Interim Parks and Recreation Director
APPROVED:
Bla Ki , City Manager
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