HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - September 9, 1997MINUTES
JOINT MEETING OF THE
LODI CITY COUNCIL AND THE
LODI UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
CARNEGIE FORUM, 305 WEST PINE STREET
LODI, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9,1997
Attached are the minutes of the Joint Meeting of the Lodi City Council and the Lodi Unified School
District held on September 9, 1997 as prepared by the Lodi Unified School District.
I hereby certify that the minutes are an accurate account of the meeting and further hereby submit
them to the City Council for approval.
Attest:
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Alice M. Reimche
City Clerk
MINUTES OF THE JOINT MEETING
OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND
Lodi THE LODI CITY COUNCIL
. - September 9, 1997
PLACE Carnegie Forum, 305 W. Pine Street, Lodi
TIME 6:30 p.m.
CALLTO The regular meeting was called to order at 7:15 pm. by Mayor Pennino.
ORDER Attendance was recorded.
PRESENT Board Members: Mr. Ken Davis, President; Mr. David Worfolk, Vice
Lodi Unified President; Dr. Clifford Mettler, Clerk; Dr. Norm Mowery; Dr. Ken Mullen;
School District Mr. Harvey Robins; Mr. Bob Weaver
Administrators: Dr. Del Alberti, Superintendent; Mr. Char' -s Matus,
Associate Superintendent, K-12 Schools and Educational a ;. yes;
Ms. Marilyn Domingo, Assistant Superintendent, Business _c. -/ices;
Ms. Mamie Starr, Assistant Superintendent, Facility Placr` —,, Mrs. Gloria
Evosevich, Administrative Assistant
Citv of Lodi City Council: Mayor Phillip Pennino; Mayor Pro Ten'.; -Td Jack Sieglack:
Council Member Keith Land, Council Member David Warner; Mr. Dixon
Flynn, City Manager, Ms. Janet Keeter, Deputy City Manager; Mr. Richard
Prima, City Engineer, Mr. Rad Bartlam, Community Development Director;
Mr. Randy Hays, City Attorney; Mrs. Alice Reimche, City Clerk; Mr. Ron
Williamson, Director, Parks & Recreation; Ms. Susan Lake, Deputy City
Clerk
ABSENT Lodi City Council Member Stephen Mann
Mayor Pennino welcomed the public to the meeting. He touched on the topics
listed on the agenda, noting that Items 1, 2 and 3 are focused agenda topics
while Item 4 is open for more general discussion of potential joint projects
between the City and the District.
TOPICS 1) Lincoln School Site
Ms. Starr introduced the topic. She explained that the Lincoln School Site
has been a topic of discussion by the City Council and Board of Education
2x2 Committee since July, 1996. She stated that from these discussions
the objective to "satisfactorily clean-up the corner of Pine Street and
Cherokee Lane and mitigate potential hazards" was defined. She noted that
District parameters were also defined as: The Adult School would remain at
the site with minimal or no cost to the Adult School for land use changes;
and, the District would retain ownership of the Cherokee Lane frontage.
Ms. Starr then described the first of two proposals:
• The District -,elle a portion of the Oak Street frontage.
• The City buys the property with grant funds and creates 3 to 5 residential
lots.
• The District uses the proceeds to move existing portables and demolishes
the old building.
• The City develops a plan for a park on the demolished area.
• The City coordinates park development with the district and service clubs.
• The City finances park construction using grant funds (the district
maintains ownership of the land).
• The City maintains the park area; LUSD maintains the remaining school
area.
Ms. Starr stated that in January, 1997, the issues were reviewed and a
tentative schedule was presented. She indicated that in April, 1997,
additional research was done which revealed the following information:
• Estimated property proceeds are less than demolition and moving cost
estimates.
• There is no 'good' location for three portables and the Adult School
prefers to stay in their present location.
• The Adult School 'might' be able to finance the demolition of the old
building.
• If lots are not sold, there is no benefit to Habitat for Humanity.
• Bare land areas are an eyesore in the neighborhood, so the quest.0,1
remains as to how to handle this issue.
• Park usage would need to be determined.
• Will the park be an attractive nuisance, creating new policirg nrnblems?
• Will vandalism of existing school buildings increase?
• Mr. Dirk Sanborn, representing Cherokee Lane businesses, -,i .;ported the
clean-up, but recommended keeping the park simple due to the fact that
the property's long-term use should be commercial.
The second proposal was described as:
• The Adult School would pay for the demolition of the building.
• The City creates a simple park design and plan for Cherokee frontage only.
• The City develops the park with grant funds.
• The City maintains the park as an entrance to east side and downtown
areas.
• Assumption is that the long-term use of the land will be commercial.
• The City and District reach mutual agreement.
• No lots would be available for Habitat for Humanity.
• There would be no moving costs, as the Adult School would remain in its
current location.
• The park would serve as an attractive entrance to the downtown area of
the City until there is a permanent land use.
Referring to the proposed schedule set forth by the joint 2x2 Committee,
Ms. Starr indicated that the committee would continue to review the
development plan and in January, 1998, seek public input, take action, and
finalize agreements, with demolition taking place in Spring, 1998.
Mr. Bartlam reported that discussion has been ongoing for some time among
City staff members with regards to the Lincoln School property. He
indicated that up to this point, discussion has remained conceptual in
nature. Mr. Bartlarn highlighted the three components included in the
proposed park plan -- a pic. dic --shelter, a playground, and a basketball
court. He indicated that the plan aligns realistically with the available
grant funds. He commented that the City is particularly pleased with the
concept of the improvements, as the intersection of Pine and Cherokee
serves as an entryway into the downtown area. He stated that the City is
hopeful that the project will get underway this year.
At the conclusion of the topic report, discussion was held with Ms. Starr and
Mr. Bartlam responding to questions and comments. Ms. Starr provided
clarification with regards to the Adult School. She explained that the Adult
School is funded independently of K-12 education and they are, therefore,
responsible for providing for their own facility and maintenance needs. She
indicated that it would be more cost effective for the Adult School to fund the
demolition of the old building than to relocate the current portables. She
noted that the offer from the Adult School to demolish the building is a
preliminary offer and will require further investigation and discussion.
Discussion centered on the practicality of the proposed park. The question
of safety was discussed, as well as the fact that Habitat for Humanity
already has homes lined up for the property. It was pointed out that once
the land is being utilized as an active park, it will be difficult to turn it into
commercial property. Mr. Bartlam stated that a park can be a plus for
commercial developments as well. He stated that the improvements bein::
_ made on Cherokee are on the basis that beautification of the boulevard k; a
catalyst to make the property a prime investment. Mr. Flynn stated that l•
does not see a problem with the property being developed and maintaircd
a park, due to the fact that alternate property will soon become avai•«`_liE
since some Cherokee Lane businesses plan to relocate to other areas.
Ms. Starr then explained various liability aspects of the park. Vandalism
and injury issues were discussed with regards to the assumption of
liability. Mr. Bartlam stated that these issues would be covered under a
property user/owner agreement between the City and the District.
Discussion continued. Dr. Mowery suggested that the park would be an
excellent choice for a memorial to the history of Lodi. Mr. Warner
commented that a year ago he was not in favor of the plan, but after working
through the various ideas and concepts, he supports the plan and believes it
to be a good use of the property. He stated that he would still like to see
some of the land allocated to Habitat for Humanity.
At the conclusion of the discussion, the consensus of the Board and the City
Council was to move forward with the proposal.
2) WOODLAKE LITTLE LEAGUE PROPOSAL - GENERAL
DISCUSSION ABOUT CITY IMPLICATIONS
Ms. Keeter introduced the proposal from a City perspective. Ms. Keeter
commended Ms. Starr and Dr. Alberti for notifying the City of the potential
project with the Woodlake Little League. Ms. Keeter stated that the Lodi
Parks & Recreation Department has been in operation for over 37 years
and has proved itself to be a solid sports and recreational program. She
stated that this is central to the City's concerns with the proposal. She
explained that the second major concern stems from the fact that the City
has had facility and field use agreements with the District for many years.
She pointed P,P that these concerns break down into two issues: the use of
the facility and the fact that the program will change within the Lodi
community.
Ms. Starr then presented an overview of the Woodlake Little League
proposal and pertinent information surrounding the proposal:
• Woodlake Little League requested that the District consider an
agreement allowing the League to improve the entire turfed area at
Woodbridge School consistent with the adopted master plan. There
would be two improved baseball diamonds and possibly a jogging track.
Soccer and flag football would overlay the fields.
The District anticipates a contribution of about $90,000 over time
from the Little League, with the League being responsible for all field
maintenance, including mowing.
• The school will be the priority user of the field, followed by the Little
League, with use restricted during the planting time this fall.
Ms. Starr stated that after the first presentation, the Board expressed
concern about the impact of the agreement on the City's use of the fields.
She indicated that with the approval of the agreement, the fields would not
_ be as available for City programs as they have been in the past and may
result in the following:
- Currently, the District has only one signed use agreement with the City
and that is for sorrar. Mr. Alexander from the Lodi Parks & Recreation
Department, indicated that relocating this practice would not be a
problem. The District expects the teams could use the fields right up to
the time that planting occurs. As soccer is hard on a field, the League will
probably request that future use agreements for soccer not be issued.
- In the spring the fields are used for City baseball. This will not be
possible in the future as the fields will be used by the Little League.
They may also have winter ball.
Current open public use could possibly be restricted if there is field
damage. Otherwise, the fields would continue to be open.
Ms. Starr stated that the proposal appears to provide additional after-
school recreational opportunities for both children and adults as well as
improved facilities for Woodbridge students. She pointed out that it also
provides the District with a unique opportunity to implement a part of the
Master Plan, and the arrangement will provide a higher level of
maintenance at a cost savings to the district.
Referring to the Master Plan, Ms. Starr indicated that the plan was
approved by the Board in October, 1994, and by the County Board of
Supervisors in June, 1995. She stated that the agreement for development
of the Woodbridge site as a joint District and County neighborhood park
facility was delayed because of the District's bond measure; however, both
staffs are refining the draft for future approval. She added that the County
has some funding that they will put towards the project once the agreement
is finalized. She stated that the Woodlake proposal is very consistent with
this plan and there is a sirr";� , ?rrangement ir- the Morada area.
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Ms. Starr stated that the District is sensitive to the City's concerns and
action on the item has been continued to the September 23 Board Study
Session. She noted that the District understands the matter will be
presented for action at a special meeting of the Parks and Recreation
Commission and that a recommendation will be made to the City Council.
She further stated that in the absence of information on any potential
adverse impacts and based on District policy and past practice as well as an
opportunity to implement the master plan, there appears to be no reason
for staff not to recommend the Board approve the agreement.
Mr. Williamson then presented the potential issues related to the proposal
as it affects the City of Lodi. They included:
• City displacement from Woodbridge Middle School
• Woodbridge Middle School out of rotation for field resting
• Present and future impacts on other fields due to potential program
expansion
• Limited use of facility by City for soccer and other sports programs
• Past and current cooperation of City and LUSD for joint use of facilities
for school and recreation sports programs
• Question of whether or not there is a need for a Little League Program
• Demand for Board members and volunteers
• Diluting sponsorships
• Recruiting coaches
• Fundraising efforts
• Potential confusion regarding sanistration/tryouts between the two
programs
• Potential problem of players 'jumping" from one program to the other
• BOBS tradition for over 37 years
Discussion was held. Mr. Warner stated that he believes the issue goes
beyond the improvement of fields. He shared his concern that once outside
sports organizations begin moving into Lodi the main issue will be
business, not what is best for kids. He commented that playing fields are
already overcrowded and therefore shifting teams from one field to another
is not practical. Mr. Weaver stated that it has been his experience in
working with Little League organizations in Stockton to see more
opportunities made available for youth to participate in sports. He
indicated that he believes the proposal can benefit Lodi in the same way.
Responding to Mr. Pennino's concern that a BOBS spokesperson was not
invited to attend the meeting, Mr. Flynn explained that due to the limited
timeline before the Board, this issue was brought forward to ensure that
both the City Council and the Board were well informed of the issues at
hand. He explained that the City Council still has a process to be followed
which will allow for input from BOBS as well as the Parks and Recreation
Commission before making a formal decision on the matter.
Mr. Williamson stated that it is his belief that the proposal will adversely
affect the Parks Department, the City, and the BOBS organization. He
stressed the importance of honoring past partnerships. He explained that
every year as a program concludes parents are asked to complete an
evaluation of the program. He stated that at no time has anyone indicated an
interest in entering into a National Little L cague program. Mr. Wi;liamson
explained that last year 2,200 young people played on 155 youth teams
under the City's programs. He indicated that teams normally like to
practice a minimum of three times per week which would equal close to
500 practices. He stated that City parks and school playing fields are
already compacted and eliminating the Woodbridge field would only add to
the problem.
Mr. Williamson explained in detail how the proposal would impact the BOBS
program in the areas of sponsorships, fundraisers, and fees. He stressed
the importance of examining all aspects of the proposal and the overall
impact it would have on the City's programs and the schools within those
boundaries.
Mr. Williamson stated that he believes the City is doing a more than
adequate job with the youth sports programs, and in light of the great
relationship the City has had with the schools over the past years, we would
not want to see that partnership diminished.
Further discussion continued. Mr. Williamson provided information on the
differences between the Little League Program and the BOBS program. He
explained that Little League sponsors baseball and softball and the BOBS
_ offers baseball, softball, football, basketball, and recreational and
competitive soccer. Board Members and Council Members then shared their
opinions and concerns.
At the conclusion of the report topic, Mr. Bob Johnson, Parks & Recreation
Commission, pointed out that the City serves the entire school district with
30 to 35% of the youth participating in the BOBS programs coming from
outside of the City limit.
3) Past and Future School Bond Issues Discussion
Ms. Starr stated that the school bond topic was placed on the agenda in
anticipation of presenting the results of the recent opinion poll conducted
by the District with regards to the bond measure. Ms. Starr explained that
as the data is not yet available, she would open the topic for discussion.
Mr. Warner shared his disappointment with the outcome of the bond. He
stated that he firmly believes a low key election is not the answer. He urged
the Board to return the issue to the voters again -- this time with a much
stronger approach.
Mayor Pennino agreed, pointing to the need for the City and the District to
work together to pass a bond. He stated that through partnership efforts,
other communities have worked together to produce top-notch, state-of-
the-art high school facilities. He also questioned whether the District has
done a sufficient job of informing the public. Mayor Pennino then referred
to the many mandates placed upon education by the State, and that the public
does not understand that the District has little control over their budget.
Mrs. Reimche commented that past history within the community points to
senior citizens as being the majority of the voters. She stressed the
importance of gearing future initiatives towards convincing seniors of the
benefits of a school bond.
Dr. Mowery stated that he found the election to be a real eye-opener in that
the public did not seem to be aware of what they were voting for. He
stressed that education is the key.
Mr. Worfolk stated that the District represents a wide geographical area
and yet many people only emphasize the "Lodi" portion of the District's
name, ignoring the "Unified." He recognized the importance of breaking
down the barriers, moving beyond past history, and uniting to provide the
best education for all students within the boundaries of the Lodi Unified
School District.
Mr. Sieglock commented that he does not believe the benefits of passing the
bond came through clearly to the public. He shared his opinion that
splitting the school district would be a `hook' to passing a bond. He stated
that the bond proceeds could be used to set-up the new district as well as
bring about changes within the two school districts. He stated that Stockton
is growing at a faster rate than Lodi, and the Stockton student population
will soon become the majority. Mr. Sieglock stated his belief that there is
an equal desire among both the Lodi and Stockton constituency's to see the
District split in order to allow more control among local jurisdictions for
_ school improvements.
Ms. Domingo explained the extensive process of splitting a district. She
indicated that it is a very expensive process and requires approval by the
state. She stated that it also requires proof that both districts can survive
financially and that the split will not cost the state additional money.
Ms. Domingo stated that she would not be financially in favor of splitting the
District, referencing several factors including the necessity to create
double administrations, the splitting of assets, and the division of staffing.
In addition, she explained that it takes two to three years to get the process
moving at the state level.
Mr. Sieglock stated that he understands the complexity of the process. He
indicated, however, that if you never begin the process it will never come
to fruition. He commented that he does not believe the District has ever
explained these facts to the voting public. Putting aside the financial
implications of a split, Ms. Domingo questioned what the educational
benefits would be of splitting the District. Mr. Sieglock stated that he does
not feel the two issues can be separated and he does not believe the voters in
Lodi are going to support a bond.
Discussion continued. Mayor Pennino recommended to the Board that they
invest the necessary dollars to hire a public relations firm to promote a
bond. Mr. Davis stated that the Board is in a delicate position with regards
to this matter, as the public carefully scrutinizes how funds are spent. He
stated clearly that he believes the problem is that without the bond,
programs are going to be cut. He commented that the issues that prevent the
voting public from approving a bond has direct consequences on students.
He pointed out that even if a bond were to pass next year, it would not be in
time to build the necessary facilities to adequately house the Districts
student population.
Mr. Rcb:ns stated his belief that the bond failed because of a lack of
communication and an insufficient number of volunteers. He noted that the
last successful bond initiative in Lodi Unified involved over 700
volunteers. He commented that the District's population has doubled since
that time, and therefore, a large volunteer effort is necessary to get the
message across. Mr. Robins supported the notion of hiring a public
relations consultant as opposed to a political consultant.
Mr. Flynn stated that he feels it is important for the District to understand
that the City is committed to providing quality education for its residents.
He commented on the importance of maintaining good schools within the
community in order to advance economic development. Mr. Flynn stated
that it is not easy to discuss sensitive issues, but necessary in light of the
fact that there are community members who feel a sense of being
overwhelmed by Stockton.
Discussion continued with the conversation centering on the community's
perception of the District. Dr. Mowery commented that he feels Lodi can
benefit from the diversity that Stockton provides. He added that he also
feels h is important to keep the dialog going between the City and the
District. Dr. Mettler stated that it seems that what the City Council has
been saying to the Board is the same as what the Lodi community has been
saying in the ballot box for years. Referring to Mrs. Reimche's comments
about the majority vote of seniors in the community, Dr. Mettler
_ commented that cutting programs will not have an effect on those voters.
Growth factors of the Stockton and Lodi communities were then discussed.
Ms. Starr explained that the District's biggest concern with overcrowding
is in the City of Lodi. She stated that overcrowding at the high school level
is districtwide, but in Lodi a change in demographics has caused
overcrowding at the elementary level.
As the discussion concluded, Mr. Davis stated that it is important to realize
there are many reasons that voters do not support bond measures. He stated
that basing a vote on personal issues is not voting for what is best for kids.
He stated that the job ahead of the Board is how to convince the public to put
aside their personal issues and vote to support schools.
4) Items of Mutual Concern
Dr. Mowery stated that he would like to see the City and District continue
working together with the watering systems and checking the humidity. He
then commented on the value he sees in the after school programs and his
hope that they can be continued. Mayor Pennino stated that some churches
are considering opening their facilities to area schools for after school
programs.
Mayor Pennino commented on computer training needs and the possibility of
joining together in training ventures. He shared his concern with regards
to partying by area youth and recommended a more concentrated crackdown
effort to remedy these situations.
Dr. Alberti stated the District is expanding its offerings of Distance
Learning opportunities. Mrs. Evosevich explained that through the
generous donation of California State University, Sacramento, a $250,000
satellite was installed on the roof of Lodi High School which allows teachers
to take courses towards fheir Master's Degree in Education. She stated that
a proposal is now being worked out which will allow teachers to study from
the ESC for a Master's Degree in Education with an emphasis on Technology.
Mr. Warner commented on the positive opportunities the 2x2 meetings
have presented for the City and the District to work together. Dr. Alberti
stated that the District has also engaged in 2x2 meetings with the City of
Stockton.
Mr. Davis thanked the Council for the opportunity to meet together and to
work in partnership with the City.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
ATTEST:
Clerk
President